I started with a Xoar 32x10 wood, as Valley View included it for free when I bought my DLE. Works fine, but is ridiculous loud with prop rip! I also bought a Falcon 30x13W, and the pull was very similar, with higher speed, and it was much quieter. My 170 spun the Xoar 6300; 6000 on the Falcon. Prop rip eliminated with the smaller Falcon