Inter,Thats quite presumption.

Seagull/Phoenix are really no better than VMAR. Go look at a Phoenix Scanner and you'll see what I mean.

The VMAR Arrow was a piece of S#*^ anyway, but probably a better one than the long defunct VMAR Stilleto.

The new VMAR Jodel though, is a different story. Still not quite up to World Models Standard, but better than anything Phoenix/Seagull put out and certainly VMAR'S best so far.

For the record, my oldest VMAR is a Ramrod. Flown extensively and now some 5 years old. Though rather grubby and knocked about, it is still going strong.

For the $$ asked though, the World Super Sports 40 is the best ARF around. Spend a few more bucks and chose it over anything VMAR or Seagull/Phoenix put out. You won't be sorry.