What an arrogant, self righteous, pompus, conceded post. I myself was not proposing for or against GYROS, but rather looking for a certain perspective. I fly 3D, I fly 3D without GYROS, I do not use GYROS other than in Helis. Just simply an observation as to why or if they could be of benefit to certain individuals. And to clarify to your statement I was not flying, well, bite one. That is just a stupid thing to say. And the term cheating, is just as moronic.