It always amazes me to see even very experienced guys trying to start their planes by hand and/or without good hold down.

I guess we should keep reminding ourselves - "Safety is an outmost goal". Without it our fun can be easily turned into tragedy. Not to mention it can take away this very ability to have this kid of fun.

DragonHeart I am glad to hear that even though it is serious, but not "really bad". I wish you good luck and farewell.