Randy, I noticed you have insight. You fly at the tom sawyer park? I live in Carrollton ky, grew up in Georgetown IN. Wondering if you go to the Tom Sawyer flying club. I am going there tommorow to watch. I dont want to join just yet. I plan to buy an LT 40, and and still messing with the AEROBIRD now. Mostly all I do with the AEROBIRD lately is take off/land, over and over till the batteries are dead in preperating for the LT 40. I think landing will be my biggest weakness.