Thanks for all the replies. I hope to get out tomorrow and do some testing and move the cg forward by moving the batteries forward because I do not want to add unnecessary weight. Maybe this will fix the problem and it's what I'm thinking and hoping it is. As far as flight trimming it was done at half throttle because this is where it cruised along with the best look and feel.

Chymas; An inverted 45 line is how I begin the trimming for my aerobatic planes to set a base line then adjust a little here or a little there but on a twin and in the very beginning stages of test flights I don't think I'm ready to flip 'er over and hold inverted. I also wondered if it would be as accurate seeing how the wing has dihedral and that itself is a built in self correcting feature. Kinda.

As for the travel and expo It is at a minimum. Low rate is less than and inch of travel with some expo to soften things up around center.

speedracerntrixie; I see what you are saying about pulling the stick as the plane slows and then, bam, you have all that throw dumped in at once around half stick. This is not the case because I can hardly even move the stick off of neutral cause it starts looking like a porpoise. I'm talking super twitchy. In flight it is calm, feels normal can complain one bit, but....... slow down and it becomes unfriendly. I will never use the manuals high rate, ever, using it would be equivalent to a monster 3D machine.

Let you know what happens tomorrow.

Thanks