Sorry, I wasn't thinking that, problem is this hobby has been surviving on prices that are not possible in this country, many of the people that started this process are now paying the ultimate price and finding out that turn over is not king. Its now reached a point that people believe these stupid low discounted prices are what things should be sold for, they are not and a "proper" business run as a business and not as a hobby side line cannot survive with the stupid low margins, that people put on even brand new products. The hobby has been falsely "surviving" on the excess and spending on many items not really needed or desired, now the trade are getting pay back as the second hand market is full of this excess being moved on and the dealers that chose to make tiny amount are now being put out of business by their own stupidity. The hobby is changing and not for the good, something that I and many others have enjoyed for years will have to change so much if it is to survive, that many will chose to leave it and overall everyone is the loser.