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i like the look of those ugly sticks. Can you buy them or are they a plan build?

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Ugly Sticks or the many clones have been around what seems forever and produced in plan, kits and arfs. The two most common in the smaller glow sizes are the Ultra Sticks distributed by horizon in I think in several sizes and the Great Planes Big Stick sold through tower hobbies.

The sticks will handle really big winds with ease compared to many other types. I hesitate to throw out windspeed numbers since its very difficult to estimate with many numbers often tossed around are acutally gross over estimates. Wind it comes to 'wind' most RC flyers (That includes the controlline and free flight guys) tend to be close relatives to fishermen and their fish storys

I have an Ultra Stick 120 Lite and a Great Planes Big Stick 40 and love them both.

Anyway here is the link for the Big Stick .40 also avalible in .60 and 1.20 sizes:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXBMM9&P=RF

John