Ynot , i agree with you on several points. The thing i think is the biggest waste of time is sitting kids down at a table and have them spend a lot of time building the AMA's delta flyer " i think that's what it's called" . i think their short attention span would be better served cultivated what each one's interests are . Also setting kids down in front of a flight sim is ok to give them a feel for flying R/C but that also has it's downsides. after all those are the kinds of things you trying to drag the youth of this country away from . I think a lot of clubs get so wrapped up in the "do not do's" that they lose site of the fact that's it's a hobby and it's supposed to be fun. i always got great satisfaction out of making a box of wood fly. As far as a license goes ... i think a lot of clubs forget to push the fact that if your under 18 , AMA IS FREE! I recently did a presentation for some kids this summer and after explaining the basics of the hobby , i let them ask the questions and when you let them interact it's a lot more fun. Getting onto the old cronies that sit perched on the telephone wires just waiting for someone to screw up i say get a different hobby. I have been to some events/fields that had me so preoccupied with staying within the confines of the area that i just packed up and left because it wasn't fun anymore to fly there and all of them were the old cronies . it's no wonder things are the way they are. WB_1