Originally Posted by countilaw

Dodged, Most toy grade copters nearly fly themselves. I suggest you visit your local hobby shop and look at the Blade brand of copters and get one of the economy priced coaxial copters. Blade has some good copters for beginners starting at $79.00. Plus you can get replacement parts for them. Then move up to the intermediate copters that have flybars. Once you master the intermediate you can then get into the 450 size with full collective.

Frank