What you says makes perfect sense Husafreak and is the reason why I dont like to use a lot of expo.. I dont think I have more than 15% expo on any jet with the exception of the ailerons on the flash. As you know it softens the control around center only so as you smoothly were increasing elevator in the flare you got to a point where the elevator all of a sudden came in to aggressively. Even though you were not aggressive on the stick. She probably then ballooned on you and as you know a situation like that can quickly take its toll. Glad you got it sorted out thanks for the update on the CG I was figuring I would start at 195MM are your throws set to what the manual recommends as wells?