I agree I have a CEN CTR. 5.0 with a picco 8 port .28 and it is the fastest car I have ever driven and I would not trade it for the world and then some ! I also a mugen k2 advance and right now it's just a roller and I don't even want it anymore and it just a smaller version of the MRX4 a pan car the cars I used to race and the k2 has about 2 hours at most on it and is set up for a big block .I had a wasp .26 in it and I would still rather drive the CEN ! I guess that shows you how much I like that car when your willing to not use your mugen seiki 10 th scale car! if I could get a hold of another CTR I would give up my mugen k2 in a heart beat .hpi even the traxxas 4tec can't hold a candle to that CTR !