Originally Posted by
Jim Cattanach
I am sure there are many countries where you cannot get Kingtech oil. If it comes to the point where the warranty is only valid if this oil is used, I think turbine sales will fall dramatically. Hope that does not happen,
In Cyprus, where Kingtech is popular, we can only get Mobil turbine oil.
As always... just playing the devils advocate, and not bashing anyone....
In the USA it's actually illegal to say that to maintain a warranty, you must ONLY use the "Supplies" made by the OEM. Ironically... this all started from the large car manufactures, and OIL.
in the 1970's.... the
Magnuson–Moss warranty Act was put into place. Basically, the "Big 3" wanted people who bought their cars to only maintain them by using their mechanics, and their oils. The law made it illegal to force people to do that. since that gave the power back to the OEM to deny the warranty for really any reason they wanted. So... this became 2-fold.
1) It became false advertising, since a 5 year warranty could be killed if you were a day late for service.
2) It kills competition to the aftermarket, since now you are forced to use supplies and service only available from the OEM.
In the end, the law does not stop an OEM from forcing you from using their supplies and service... but if that's the case... the supplies and service must be given FREE to the end user.
From that point on... the OEM had to Spec an oil type that was good to use, and would be available in a generic form. This is where the USA "API" ratings really evolved. Also, Europe "ACEA" and the Japanese "JASO". Basically... the OEM's spec'ed an oil... then the aftermarket oil companies would blend to those specs.
With that all said.... Barry, Dirk.... I do agree with you guys about the 2-stroke oils. They just can't take the heat, and they were designed to burn during combustion. But, when you said that the 2 top rated turbine oils were in question (DTE and 500)... I wasn't sure what was going on.
Don't get me wrong.... you guys offer GREAT service... and the engines are hard to beat. (I've personally been waiting for the K-35 to come out) But, to keep customers happy (and to stay legal in the USA and Europe)... you may need release the contents of the oil you are pushing, so people can get it, without buying it from you. OR... give an "Oil Spec" that can be followed. (since the Mil spec isn't good) At the least... make a list of approved oils.
With all that said.... going back to my comments in the original oil thread... To keep your engines running clean... you may want to consider either putting a little more fuel down the bearing tube, (a few thou bigger on the restrictor) to help keep it cool. OR... putting more by-pass air around the tube to to the same job.