Yea i called them earlier, and they dont have backdraft 8e. It's maddening that they keep trying to get me to buy earthquake or tornado. But backdraft is the best one ive seen so far.

I talked to someone in a hobby shop a couple hours ago and he said I can buy them from the red cat website and actually pick it up at their Phx headquarters. Unfortunately they are closed during the weekends but Monday morning ill give them a call and see if I can. Supposedly you can do this with parts as well. Ill check it out Monday and let you know.