Well, he wrote me back tonight. Their price is $240 (50 bucks more than BPhobbies). I wanted to try this motor out since it was such a bargain, but at that price Im not sure I want to risk this thing being a dud.

Decisions decisions...

I'm kinda leaning towards using my DLE20. If I cant get a hover out of if with the 20 and a 18x6 I may just go ahead and throw more weight on it with a smoke system and fly it sport plane style. Smoke is always fun...