Yep John nothing flies like a Kadet. I have been piddling with the plane most of the night making adjustments and adding another ounce of weight to the nose. Now it weighs 5 pounds on the money. It has 5 sf of wing area which means it has a 16oz wing loading. A little more than the optomistic numbers on the box but still not bad. I have one Stik with a 23oz wing loading but it still takes off in just a few feet and can be slowed down to a crawl to land.

The new Avistar trainer has about a 22-23oz wing loading and from what I have read you really need to use the flaps with this plane. And thats a trainer? I think the old Avistar is a much better trainer plane. I wish I could find one.