Thank you Suburban Hooligan, the only one that really answered the question. I didn't know HorizonHobby owned Losi for so long now. I want a Losi vehicle but I don't need anybody to tell me that HorizonHobby has got their head up their ass. I don't have time for any vehicles that don't have good support or parts on the wall. I own a rc track and live right here so Im harder on RC's then anybody I know. Im a good driver I just drive more then anybody else so my vehicles get a lot of ware. Mugen MBX7eco is a great driving vehicle but its crap to me because theres no parts on the wall and support is in Japan. Sometimes I feel like I should just roll with Team Associated, they are still their own company after all. *** was Collector1231 talking about OFNA? I had a OFNA before, that thing wouldn't last a couple days under me lol.