Now i scratch build bigger planes and have won a few arfs in contests so iam not a die hard i guess . I save my scratch built planes and give up to the flying gremlins the couple foam electrict arfs i own as to save my bigger scratch built ones. Iam a die hard builder but i have chilled my thoughts on what others fly around me . I enjoy the questions and looks from other flyers when i pull one of my builds out of my van and really like when they ask where they can buy one ! lmao After being a master carpenter for 30 years i have had many young guys who wanted to make it as a good carpenter / builder but many of them just could not hack it and wondered away soon. I feel building kits or scratch building is the same way a little and its not for every one. The guys who say they dont have time or its cheaper to just buy one built will never feel like i do looking at a finished build or a couple million dollar house i just finished building. I use to feel sorry in a way for them but i have now come to the point in my old age where i dont care if they show up to a warbird meet with a VERY shiney warbird or to the lake to fly along with 20 other arf cubs on floats. I do help anyone who wants to learn to build and i was a flight instructor for 20 plus years in two different clubs so i think about helping to keep the building part of our great hobby going now and dont sweat what anyone flys.I helped a guy(Robert) and his son in CA scratch build a Tide Water pronto surpreme and we have never met in person .I built my pronto first and sent pictures of it to him and replied to many questions and he did well and is still scratch building and flying also. He sent me this last week of him his son and his father all flying on vaction in the Origon mountains . To me this is what i like to do now and think about in the short time i have left and dont care if guys fly ARFS .:-) joe