Maybe someday when my flying skillscatch up to my building skills I will fly them the same way as well Robert. I agree that money spent on ARF'S can be just as much as a scale build, they're not cheap. I end up customizing them to suit my needs and that drives the price up, so I do take good care of them. I just look at my build table right now and what I see on it would have taken me the better part of a year to get to! Granted as nice as this current ARF is, it can't be compared next to my other planes that I built.