rcworld2000, I don't have much more to add. Tom, Gray,and Charlie have answered your questions and more. These guys know and are shooting you straight, "hear and heed" (listen and learn). Yes, the Balsa USA plane I mentioned is the Student Trainer" as Tom correctly pointed out. I couldn't remember the correct name. If you do build the Balsa USA Trainer and you sorta feel you may not need another trainer, build it as a taildragger with flaps. That will give you more to play with when flying. You can also add a finished cockpit with a pilot, instrument panel, and what ever else comes to your mind. "scale" it up with wing struts, etc., it's a blank canvas that you get to paint to your liking. That's part of the fun of building. look at Tom's kit bash on a Sig Kadet Sr. OK I said I didn't have "much" more to say, I didn't say I have "no" more to say! 4 Star 40/60, Tiger 40/60, Sig Kadet (any), Balsa USA Trainer, ALL GOOD...Pick one and GO!