Sorry Zor, the response was directed to Box Car from his post to you at post #2121. I was directing him to post #1264 which is page 51 on my computer. I have some experience with STOL design which I think a Kadet is inherently anyway so these would be more variations than modifications. Either way it is still a Kadet in my book and it's versatility is a big part of it's popularity don't you think?