P.S.
If you want to learn how to do a no hands flat spin get yourself an airplane that flat spins really good, get it up really high, put it into a flat spin, turn your radio off while the controls are locked over, put the radio down, go grab a drink and come back in 20 sec. or so and fly
The talent lies it getting to the cooler to get the drink and get back in time before your plane smacks the ground.