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Old 01-19-2015 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ren3
Ron, I do not know who owns Bonzi, but in 2000 or 2001 I stopped in on the then company in Indianapolis when I was trying to buy a large hull for myself. They were advertising an 84" hull, but when I was on their premises they had not even built a plug! I came back to Colorado and built my 73" Cigarette scale model plug of the 36' Cig, and had molds made. I only wanted my hull, but Rich from Thunder Pro in NJ asked me to supply him with hulls. I did sell him 20+ hulls over two years, but as with most modeling projects the economics were just not there. I was not doing this in my garage. I still have the molds, and my hull at 18 lbs would easily handle one twin inline, but not two! My hull was built by a professional fiberglass fabricator to my specs which were based on a full sized boat. I have personally built four full sized boats to 35' and a dozen models. I still have my all carbon hull #1 with twin 26cc full mod Zenoahs and MHZ Merc #6 outdrives, but there is no longer a place in Colorado to run it safely even when the ice melts. I retailed the hulls for $750 plus shipping via FedEx, and it still was not worth my time and expense. I remember some people complaining about the price, and just was disgusted with their total lack of understanding on what it took to actually design and manufacture a hull professionally. Lost my interest at that time after Rich died in 2005 trying to supply a product to a market that was just not worth the effort. It is just beyond most hobbyist's understanding as far as the economics are concerned. I do believe that I have digressed into a bit of a rant. Sorry!
Bob - a lot has happened in 14 years or so. There have been plenty (Dozens) of 84" Apaches hitting ponds and a number of them with inlines - some with inline QD70's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z8tahRjMTc From what I have heard they are a real handful with that kind of power - 30HP would be menacing in the best of boats. Rather than flogging a hull that 14 years ago was not in production perhaps you could be open to the fact that they now exist - as do PI 84" apaches and MHZ 83" apaches and similar.

Frankly I imagine an 84" apache being a great boat to power with a pair of inline zenoahs or RCMK's (or any other power you care to name Inline Polinis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ijiTGG3t8w). Personally - I have an 84" apache on the shelf but have yet to decide on what power it will have - I might keep this one simple..... might!!

Here is a link with a handful of pics other people have taken a while back of some 84" apaches with twins - built by some people who know their craft. http://imageevent.com/justaddwata/mo...ics/bigapaches

I have seen a few pictures of the 73" REN hull you have but cannot turn up any video of them in action. Can you share any links to videos etc?