Ok, I didn't want to get personal, but in his first post he post a bunch of HOBBYKING stuff, then when questioned, I DONT KNOW WHY WITH SUCH A GREAT NAME like BLACK_RC_PILOt, with no post, then makes a statement about getting arrested, gets some good advice and then comes back saying he can not afford it, I offer what is known to be a decent entry level complete edf jet,that is affordable, and makes the statement that he makes his own money, WELL welcome to the real world pal, that's how we all get ours too, go out everyday to earn it. since I was 15. Then he Ask if there are fans that sound like turbines, and the answer is clearly NO, edf fans do not have compressors, or injectors, or an explosion inside a chamber, or high velocity burned fuel exhaust coming out of them, that is what a turbine sounds like. There are some good sounding fans out there but they do NOT sound like any turbine I have ever heard, and I have been around plenty of high end EDF Jets, One being an older BVM f-86 that was running on 14s it sounded good but nothing like a turbine. Period. SO after your comment telling me to shut up, I will still offer you this last bit of help, and Im done with you,, Here is a Fan I believe you can afford, You can get some jetA, SCRATCH that you will have to get diesel, put it in a squirt bottle, spray it in the fan and sit behind it using your voice making roaring noises, and You will have a electric fan that sounds and smells like a real Jet Turbine,, Best of luck to you Troll, my bet is he is under 16 years old..