Okay, I may be getting somewhere with the Saitos....I saturated the carb with some cleaner and was finally able to break it loose. So I swapped carbs and put the working one on to the other engine. I need to remount the engine and fuel her up and give it another try. Not sure sure what to do with the OS though...that may be stuck, that ones just not coming loose. I will let you know what happens with that Saito
Thanks again for all the feedback!! Much Appreciated!