I'm REALLY tired of having these ignorant, stupid and pathetic rules and opinions passed down from higher but lesser mortals I.E. Governers , bodies, parties , chairman, do gooder jealous can't fly prats. For the last time 3D is the pivitol of flying, it's the backflip of motox jumping. Not everyone can do it . IT not only takes talent skill practise co ordination and practise but balls, something these rule enforcers dont have. BASICS, standard flying high speed dive/loop within all the guidelines then add radio failure equals plane in the pitts or crowd ! 3D flying say slow rolling harrier very low and very close and add radio failure, result a very quick crash on patch. This is where the ignorance comes in theyfail to appreciate how many hard it is (more than 2 control inputs at anyone time- have they ever done that?) to keep a model pointing up past the stall travelling at 2 miles per hour (yes most of these rule enforcers spend the full flight at full throttle and yetb there not considered dangerous) if a person was to freeze for just one second the model will crash. Lastly they fail to appreciate (cos again they can't and never will) that if a model was to lose radio say in the hover , even if the engine reved up it can not fly away its got no momentem and no inplanted talent to mix all the sticks to keep it up. IT WIIL INSTANTLY GO DOWN, DOWN, INTO THE GROUND< LIKE MANY OF THE IGNORIES THAT FLY MUCH MORE DANGEROUS AND ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO HAVE A PLANE GO INTO A CROWD THAN A 3DER_GET REAL GET A LIFE