I don't live within 1000 miles of any desert, so I fly electric airplanes, because they're quiet, don't get oily, and I never need to buy fuel. I fly just about anywhere I want to, and never had a complaint about noise, or anything else. I don't need to belong to a club, to have a place to fly. I have several parks nearby, that I can fly at. I build all of my own models, sometimes from scratch, but mostly from kits. I hate "bARFs", They are all exactly alike., assembled by someone in a factory. Who knows what may be weak inside, and just waiting to cause a crash. Half the fun is in the building anyway. I prefer to build my model, and design my own paint scheme. I still like to use silk and dope. I'm old as dirt, and like the old school methods, of building, and flying. These clowns who are giving our hobby a bad name should be punished harshly, for the things they do. If it were up to me, I'd outlaw the quads altogether.