yes,,,means Liberal.... It seems to me that every time something is controversial, people want to "Sweep it under a rug" instead of hitting the problem head on... that's how MOST libbies do, and All I'm saying is that we have all been there with "hotrods" thinking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, THINKING,,,,,,,,,, they are better than the rest of us... don't sweep it,,,FIX IT... keep the thread open, and keep us informed!!!!