The little Fokker, heh heh, that short coupled stuff can be a pain, toe in helps a little bit, or enough power to blast off. One member built a swoose on floats but was too heavy to fly worth a darn, made an awesome boat tho. I have not heard from the Gent in England who offered to send me a pdf of the builders manual for the Moth, what I would really like is a copy of the plans, but old kits............