Well ARFS are fine as long as you get them from a reputable company. If you dont think so then ask Chip Hyde. His 42% AW bipe is now an ARF. In all honesty the new line of ARFS (from reputable companies) are built better than 90% of can build. I look down the fues. of my 33% Sukhoi here and I dont see a gap or a flaw the whole way down. To get back on the subject, Billy is right about VMAR Arfs. They have improved from '96 but they still lack quality craftsmanship.