thanks gentlemen i gotr downloaded throws on elevator and aileron seem kinda high and the flaps should be a little more just thinking of my last zero i think ill use those as high rates and dial it down about on the low end flaps is a toss up hotrod are you going to set up a take off flap as well i had it on my last zero and seemed to work quite well. also ordered my evo777 should be here next week . hope it fits the cowl otherwise i will have to split it and ad an inch guess we will see