[QUOTE=SushiHunter;12151459]Well if you're out for exciting adrenelin rush r/c why aren't you doing turbines then? Hell, even my Habu 32 8s stumax will give you more of a rush then a r/c hovering octopus.

It's all relative, Turbine jet flying out in a big box.....edf jet flying in a much smaller box ( harder to see it).....Micro beast in a still much smaller box all about the same excitement!!!. I learned how to fly heli 30 years ago without a gyro, that was exciting. Racing the boats would be closer to having 8 turbine jets pylon racing in a parking garage, and during the laps 6 would go down and be in the way while you finish the race!.