That's good to know. I'll be turning it down a bit next time I go out. I have 20 degrees of rudder set up for my low rate which currently has too much elevator and aileron, then a hi rudder flight mode that will have the pitch mixed out for slow rolls, 4 point rolls, and stall turns, then a high rate setting for spins. But I'll experiment with less rudder to see how it does. With the maximum throw, it does gain a little bit of altitude in knife edge and will probably gain more once I get the right prop on it to let the Jett muffler do its thing.