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Old 09-19-2016, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by David Gladwin


"The ONLY thing worth talking about here was the safe position it crashed in. I'm sure it will be looked at why it broke up."


..........and that is exactly why I have raised the isssue, so many times including at JMA meetings, of too many pilots ignoring the CAA recommendations of 50 meters spacing, a runway width, between the model and other pilots etc. ( and the doubters should read CAP 658 and the advice on the BVM web. site)

Just saying that because we have had no serious crashes causing injury or worse then we are operating completely safely is hiding our heads in the sand. We MUST be more proactive than this if we are to secure the future of this hobby.

The UK full size air show scene had not had a fatal (spectator) accident since Farnborough with the 110 breakup over 50 years ago.(IIRC) Then came the Shoreham disaster, as a consequence of which the air show scene here has been changed dramatically, even the Red Arrows could not display at Farnborough. The preliminary AAIB report makes sobering reading.

If, God forbid, we do have a serious accident, there will always be those who will say someone should have spoken up BEFORE this happened. Well, I have, and we have to see what can be learnt from EVERY significant accident, or even incidents which could, in slightly different circumstances, have been much more serious accidents.

We learned this in military and airline aviation a long time ago. If we really value our privilege of being able to fly model jets with few restrictions and little interference from our regulators, the CAA in the UK, we need to follow their lead instead of just carrying on as we are and trusting to luck.
Which is why the preface to the BMFA GTBA/JMA gas turbine safety rules emphasizes the following point:


Pay attention to where and when aircraft are flown to
ensure the safety of people, property and the environment.


However if you read the CAP and the BMFA handbook you will find that the 50 metres is measured to the crowd line or pit line - not to the pilots' box which may lie inside it.

CAP 658 says:
At least 50 m clear of persons, vessels, vehicles or structures. This can be reduced to 30 m for take-off or landing. Other model operators and any assistants or officials may be within this distance; as may vessels, vehicles or structures under their control

Last edited by cmp3cantrj; 09-19-2016 at 11:41 AM. Reason: typos