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Old 10-25-2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by franklin_m
I tend to be more "crush the offender" type. Just me, but I've been burned by trying to be nice in cases like this. The guy's flying was a pretty egregious violation of the rules. I think the system could tolerate one waiver being yanked. He can get it back, but he's going to have to EARN it.

The harder problem is how to address all the others who didn't intervene? One of many resources I often use is Kotter's Leading Change:

The eight stages are:
1. Establishing a sense of urgency (nothing like yanking a waiver)
2. Forming a powerful guiding coalition (under risk of being shut down)
3. Creating a vision (MA article contents)
4. Communicating the vision (MA & website publishing)
5. Empowering others to act on the vision (expectation for others to intervene)
6. Planning for and creating short-term wins (positive reinforcement during no-notice visits)
7. Consolidating improvements and producing still more change (TBD)
8. Institutionalizing new approaches (no-notice compliance checks)
Originally Posted by Gizmo-RCU
Franklin,

With you all the way! As a retired LE Officer (34 yrs.) I have had many similar experiences over those years just different offenses. There is no way the offender didn't know the rules. Todays culture (liberal) seems to feel if you don't have photos it just never happened, forget the other evidence present. With the photos what could the excuse be?
Clip his wings until the point is well taken by him and others present and let the Club know they will loose AMA sanctions should this happen again. Looks like a poor location for that type of flying anyway.

Hi Gents , reading what you two say I can agree that if this was intentional , cocky , without a doubt knowingly flaunting of the safety rules then yea , a "spare the rod & spoil the child" approach likely would get folk's attention and make them more willing to toe the line . I would expect an instant and extreme contrition on the part of this pilot if he's approached about this if he truly is deserving a second chance to follow the Safety Code , and any kinds of combative or dismissive response would and should earn the maximum prescribed punishment , whatever that may be . Personally , I can't believe a person can be an AMA member , get to the point in the hobby where they are flying Turbine engine powered models , and not know of the Turbine waiver requirement , if it's true that this is an AMA member and that he does not hold the required waver . In short I would take a dim view of the mentality of "But Officer , I thought speed limits were only for those with driver's licenses" , if that's truly what we got going on here .