Absolutely not joking - Shockwave does not have any washout in the wing and will out aerobatic fly a UL, UB, etc. But my comment was not to take any real credit away from the Ultra Lightning. It is a great jet that is low cost and built right by CARF. I've owned a few Lightnings since the original first came out over a decade ago, have countless flights on them and know their habits very well. I flew my last UL pretty much exclusively for 4 years before selling it. That UL is what greatly improved my flying skills and I owe it a lot of credit for that. I just started getting bored with it and decided to move on to something better. Just don't get too stupid on tight outside loop action or quick transitions from inverted and all will be fine with the UL.