i was surprised to find the predator weigh in at 30 1/2 pounds with k180g in it.. the jet feels so much thicker in glass and overall i found it to give me the impression the ody would be much lighter when in same state rtf dry.. i do know the predator is built a touch stronger in most every way but the ody is for sure a fine plane. the ody has a better finish on it. the predator shows a lot of blems through the paint. i have bubbles and seam lines where ducting and such are molded on to fuse.