I'm am glad to hear of some guys having good experiences with UPS.

I've made crates as indicated in my original post; still got smashed up. Fortunately- I insure all my crates for about twice as much as the plane is worth-- so the guy on the other end makes out like a bandit when he files the claim. Problem is- most guys buying an already built plane are doing it because they don't have time or tools to build. Doesn't do the guy much good to purchase my RTF plane and have it show up smashed. Sure, he gets the money from the insurance claim-- but still no plane, and a hassle to boot.

UPS sometimes has size restrictions- so a larger plane will have to go Forward Air or Greyhound. I believe Greyhound max size is 3'X4' X6'long. UPS size restrictions are much smaller.

Recently shipped an 80" Extra via Forward Air in my usual crate. No problems. Delivered in 2 days.