As was pointed out before, how people see us online may not truly reflect the type of person we really are. I think we can all keep that in mind. As far as Fliers method is concerned, I used the same approach with my kids and it did work very well. While I have not seen unwilling instructors at the field, I have seen some that I felt were not qualified for the job and although I do not have the patience for beginning instruction I have on many occasions offered to be an " advanced instructor ". I have yet to be taken up on that offer. From my perspective, once guys can take off and land, the instructor signs them off and they simply want to do their own thing. Unfortunately that usually leads to having airplanes that are taking off and landing under semi control. I have also seen clicks develop within clubs but not as badly as others.