Yes, the people from the host club were great. Others that we knew from other areas were a lot of fun as well. It was just that small group from our home area, some belonging to our own club, that were an issue. This group would best be described as new pilots barely able to fly a full house Kadet on their own thinking, because they took a crash course in aerobatics, they can fly a 33% Extra like a competition pilot. The results are the same in this case, they go for a while and then crash due to lack of experience. What's really bad is they won't listen to those of us that really can fly that 33% Extra, the one's that have paid their dues in time and training, because another couple that doesn't have much more experience than the rest of the group tell them they are as good as the wife and I are, which they are not.