Thanks guys,
The bickering, whining, sucking up and gloom over there is incredible, this is a much more user friendly site, more active and hopefully the advice given is better, on that site when a question is asked too many want to post without giving an answer, usually starting by saying, "Well I can't answer that but someone will be along who can", yeah thanks for that, great help, then you get the type that always offer advice but it's usually 30% correct at best......jeez