It's funny, you look at something for so long and wonder why it's not working and you completely overlook the obvious! Thanks for pointing that out! I have some proper props now, hopefully I'll get a chance to try it again before everything freezes up here! Just waiting on some new spinners.. I may of lost my last one in the water.... Luckily the wind was blowing towards shore! Which brings me to my next (very important) project: a recovery boat!!