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Old 11-06-2003 | 01:49 PM
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J_R
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Horrace

Since you obviously have lost track of the way that the AMA is currently structured and works, let me lay out some of this for you. Normally (not always) when the EC perceives a problem, they solicit input from the special interest group(s) (SIG) involved and from the Safety Committee. Again, normally, there is a protracted period of time for such input and many discussions take place between the SIG(s) and the Safety Committee. In most cases, the SIG and the Safety Committee both make a presentation of any proposed action to the EC. In many cases, they are sent back with new issues and make additional presentations. Ultimately, the EC makes a decision. That decision is normally submitted to the attorneys. When the “due process” has taken place, the rule is changed.

As I have posted here before, the list of committees, and their members, that is posted in the Members Only section of the AMA web site lists ONLY EC members and AMA staff. Additional members of committees do not appear on the list. You are absolutely correct in your statement that Carl Maroney is not an active flyer. He is the in house expert on the AMA’s insurance. He is a member of the Safety Committee. He is not it’s chairman. He is not it’s only member.

Where Pylon has gone is an issue worth looking at. Initially, cages were required for safety. They were penetrated. Stronger cages were built by the AMA and they were also penetrated. The SIGs involved, along with the Safety Committee and the EC came to an agreement that kept pylon from being banned. It could have been, but, that is not what anyone wanted. The result is that in the last two years, since the implementation of the new rules, no one has been hurt. IMHO, someone did something right. We have one of the top pylon flyers in our club. He does not love the new rules, but, he is happy that rules were put in place that allowed the continuation of the sport. You may be willing to risk the health of participants and spectators, but, apparently, the SIGs, Safety Committee and the EC are not.

Horrace, you nor anyone else has to answer my questions. You have become so far removed from the AMA that you have little idea of what is going on, IMHO. A good case was your recent attack on me for “blasting” information that corrected your opinion about frequency conflicts and the AMA insurance coverage. I posted that e-mail with Carl Maroney’s one word reply in exactly three forums. You went out and posted your attack on me in many more than that. I let it lie. I have received many e-mails wanting to know when I was going to blast you. I was not at SWAC. I only know what I was told. Carl’s presentation was on PROPERTY DAMAGE at an AMA sanctioned event with an controlled impound area. You claim that you asked many questions and took copious notes. Carl came back with a reply to your inquiry that he did not make it clear that it did not involve personal injury. A very policically correct move giving you an out. The fact is that he did not say it did cover personal injury, nor did he tell you that there are whales in the ocean. It was your screw up, your error in logic, yet you tried to imply that it was his error. If you do not know the difference between bodily injury and property damage, you should not have undertaken making a report on the presentation he made, in my opinion.

Horrace, where I have many detractors because I choose fact over opinion, you have dropped to a point where, in my opinion, your tools have become personal attacks, misinformation, and unfounded conspiracy theories. You constantly try to inspire others by fear. Your attacks on me, or those you know are one thing and of no consequence. The foul mouthed attacks on anyone posting anything that vaguely disputes your opinion are another. I choose to challenge facts or opinions and make myself something of a target. You, on the other hand, immediately proceed to name calling and worse.

Of course, this is all just my opinon.

JR