Hey Rob,

they are for sale, but unfortunately I haven't been able to get in touch with Mr Ramel lately. It seems to be a little bit of an e-mail problem there. If you head over to the E-Zone (www.rcgroups.com), try sending a PM to "Peter Holzapfel", which also flies the E-Factor. I know him from a competition (hat a funny guy BTW) and he answered one of my e-mails last month. There's a nice description of his plane [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1223536#post1223536]here.[/link]

Regards,
-Fabrizio

edit: I received an e-mail from him today (11/11/03), stating that he has had e-mail problems and could not answer before. Everything should be back to normal and he's more than happy to receive inquiries from all of us.