Originally Posted by
speedracerntrixie
A larger sampling then you right? This is where you loose everyone who ever reads this forum except for a few guys. You expect everyone to take everything you say at face value based on your limited experience with AMA clubs. Then when somone with FAR MORE experience with AMA clubs makes a statement that is dangerous to your cause you post up some long winded pile of garbage to discredit the guy with experience on the current topic. This is exactly the thing that keeps us from having actual useful conversations.
No AMA lessons learned from dangerous near misses, and you're getting upset about me saying 35 out of 2000 isn't statistically significant? Outside of the fact that it's a true statement, your emotionalism is getting the best of you yet again.
If AMA were serious about wanting to be viewed as a serious player to the FAA, they'd have many of the things I described. And you know what? What I described above are all components of a ... wait for it ... Safety Management System. Oh, and wasn't it the AMA that told the FAA and others that they had an SMS? We see of course they did not. And do not to this day. Which is precisely one of the major reasons they're not viewed as credible among the other aviation stakeholders - most notably the one writing the regulations.
It's just not that hard to be serious about safety. There should have been a major expose on the Fairview Club. So other clubs could avoid making the same mistakes, drawing more unwanted attention, or God forbid prevent a mishap. But no. AMA takes the "If we don't talk about it, it never happened" approach. Same for standing "Mayhem Park." Same for sending the spectators diving for safety as a LMA careens toward them out of control. Same for a number of other events. Or tell you what? How about some no-kidding SCIENTIFIC analysis of things like receiver placement, transmissivity of full tanks vs. unfilled, how antenna placement or number of satellites affects reliability. I'm talking real science, using spectrum analzyers etc. I'd imagine that nearby Ball State has some engineering students that could help. People might actually read that ... instead of YET ANOTHER article about electric motor functionality. Some sort of reporting system is necessary, but even that doesn't need to be difficult. And publish data from time to time ... so again, everyone can learn.
So like I said, it's just not that hard to be credible. My piece above talked about several. You were more worried about how many clubs visited than the real issue - one that affects why AMA isn't viewed as credible.