Hello FB, Thanks for the info on the trust angle of your motors. My computer went south with the rain. Its working, but don't know for how long. Your right about some of these designs that require a great deal of experience to fly ,trim,and have more than one or two flites, before we hang them from the rafters,but ain't it fun,you know,being a test pilot don't you know. I'm going to add nose weight also and see what happens, a larger capacity battery of seven cells It will give me more weight without having to just add ballast. When the WF did fly it was really nice to watch fly by,canard and all,anyways thanks E-Jim