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Old 05-15-2022 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by franklin_m
So ... more money to "advocate" for model aviation is not an incentive? More money to enhance facilities at Muncie is not an incentive? More money to hire more staff is not an incentive? More money to improve IT systems is not an incentive? More money to spend on advertising and member recruitment isn't an incentive? More money for lobbying is not an incentive (note 1)? More money to give to AMA foundation (which turns aroudn and gives it right back to AMA) isn't an incentive? Etc. Etc. Point being, AMA has penty of incentive to earn money. Looking only at leadership pay is an incredibly narrow perspective, one that ignores the many other incentives they have to earn money.
Nope, those are not the same kind of incentive that more money in your own pocket is. Very few people are truly selflessly motivated to pursue some greater good with no personal reward.

Originally Posted by franklin_m
IF they fail, then the organization goes away and this thing they say they love so much goes in the dust bin of history. Is that not an incentive to do well?
True, but you yourself have pointed in the past how they fail to make that connection. At this point that is still some future possibility. Not the same as making this year bonus payout.

Originally Posted by franklin_m
Flite Test is a commercial operation, but they have a companion organization Flight Test Community Association. And it is a non-profit ... wait for it ... just like the AMA (note 2).
FlliteTest Community was formed so they can apply for CBO status. They are not actively developing this as a platform (at least not the same way that they are developing their base operations).

Originally Posted by franklin_m
Just like most other commercial operations. But again, as shown above the AMA has just as much incentive to earn money as does a commercial operation. Those incentives are different, but they are no less drivers of decision making than are commercial incentives.
Yes, but only if they make that direct connection, which I do not believe they are YET making. They may know this intellectually at some level, but there is no-one they have to answer to today. No one to directly hold them accountable in a way that says you may be fired at ANY time for not performing. They will get the same pay every year as long as they hold onto their jobs, and the threat of some far off loss of postition is not the same as having to look your boss (or shareholders board of directors) in the eye and answer for why you are not making your numbers and why your should be allowed to remain if your can't.

Originally Posted by franklin_m
Note 1: "A 501(c)(3) organization may engage in some lobbying, but too much lobbying activity risks loss of tax-exempt status."
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/lobbying/
Yup, I have pointed that out myself here many times when others here have complained that the AMA is not doing enough to lobby. If we want to be effective at lobbying we need a PAC of some sort, but I doubt we could raise enough money to make any kind of impact.

Originally Posted by franklin_m
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