hey thanks t.s. it worked great. went and got a"heater"@ the lhs and its much better. i took my time and really lost track of time i was doing so well!! looked @the wall clock and it said " go to work son" so im a little rummy. as far as an instructor, the one tween my ears has always done me fine, paid my dues in E flight mistakes, tears, builds and triumphs. im not sayin i couldnt use one as im sure there will be issues like speed, power management, timing and such. the bunch of guys ive been flying with are E only and im the first to break ranks. the big, big a.m.a. field on the east-side is not my " straight-pinky" cup o joe. maybe i should go a little more this winter and see if i can find someone to buddy with. lord knows i dont need to do a full rebuild on it before march! and thanks bout the info on my " clunker" later, Ted Jansen,aka flip-flop-fly!