Thanks for the info wings, by the way sent you a PM so check it out.

UPDATE as of now I think I am gonna go glo, either the nexSTAR (waiting on admin;s review) or the sig lt-40. Can anyone help with the decision, which is better for ROG takeoffs? Can I get a good link to a LT-40 review?

Thanks for all your help, this forum is truely one that I will be active in for a LoooOOonng time so get used to me...hahah

Steve