hey the thought of getting an ofna buggy insterad of a savage 25 is still lurking in my head...at ultimate hobbies they have it for cheap compared to other places. on ofna's website it says they buggy comes with pullstart and starterbox, but on ultimate hobbies it does not mention that. so i'm confused. and all ya'll that have driven buggies and mt's, do you like driving a buggy better (for just bashing)? my rc10gt just doesn't have enough power really and i have enough money to make it completely awesome but if i had 2 rc's, i think that would be better. i have to christmas to decide and i have changed bettween buggy and mt numerous times. anyways here is the link to the pcr at ultimate hobbies. http://www.ultimatehobbies.com//p597.html thanks guys!